[超级面对面]Carly Rae Jepsen：不只是“蹲妹”

Carly Rae Jepsen

网易音乐独家报道 （文/梁晓辉）被中国歌迷亲切称为“蹲妹”的Carly Rae Jepsen，一直以甜美的流行公主形象示人，然而她却不想一直重复自己。新歌MV她与奥斯卡影帝汤姆汉克斯合作成为大热门，新专辑有什么变化？走红背后她有多少不为人知的秘密？《超级面对面》第90期独家对话Carly Rae Jepsen。

谈外号：“蹲妹”这个外号很好笑

三年前，在并不那么容易传唱外国歌曲的中国内地，一首朗朗上口的《Call Me Maybe》少见地成为了走街串巷的“神曲”，每个年轻人都可以哼上一段副歌旋律，也让卡莉·蕾·吉普森（Carly Rae Jepsen）这个从“加拿大偶像”比赛中走出来的女歌手，迅速成为中国歌迷的“熟客”，并因为单曲封面蹲着的姿势，她获得了“蹲妹”这个既接地气、又有特色的称号。

网易音乐：Do youknow, you have a nickname in China called the “Squat Sister”? How do you likeit?

你知道么，你在中国有一个昵称叫“蹲妹”，你觉得这个昵称怎么样？

Carly Rae Jepsen: No, I didn’t know that.

我不知道。

网易音乐:That’s because of the cover of ‘Call Me Maybe’.

那是因为“CallMe Maybe”这首单曲的封面。

Carly Rae Jepsen: I’m doing the Squat? That’s amazing, ‘Squat Sister’. I hope thatsticks.

是因为我蹲着么？好棒，“蹲妹”。希望它能持续下去。

网易音乐: Howdo you like that name?

你觉得这个昵称怎么样？

Carly Rae Jepsen: It makes me laugh. That’s for sure.

它让我很开心，这是肯定的。

网易音乐：Willyou continue the sweet girlish style of music forever?

你会继续永远保持这种甜妞音乐风格么？

Carly Rae Jepsen: I don't think I ever put to much attention I thought into pretreatmyself as one way or another. I’m just so easy trying to be as much aspossible. And I even think in the second verses of “Call Me Maybe” exposed evenmore desire just figuring ethnic of myself. I think sometimes in the world ofpop, people have a desire of put you into “You’re Princess Candy” ”You’reRihanna” “You’re this”. And I have no desire to label myself from one to theothers. In fact, I’m just an artist want to be a artist whoever I wanted to perceiveI perceived.

我觉得我并没有放太多注意力在把自己定位于某一种模式。我就是很简单地想成为我所能够的更多。我甚至觉得在“Call Me Maybe”的第二段中我展现的更多是对于我自己的种族思考。我觉得一些时候在流行音乐世界中，人们倾向于定义你为“甜蜜公主”“蕾哈娜”“你是这样”。但是我一点也不想给自己贴上任何一种标签。事实上，我只是一个希望成为歌手，保持自己所保持的，一个歌手。

谈与影帝合作：我差点打了他

走红后的“蹲妹”继续保持流行攻势，带着一首无论节奏还是旋律都不输前作的新歌《I Really Like You》卷土重来。不仅如此，MV中她还找来了奥斯卡影帝汤姆·汉克斯（Tom Hanks）主演，并“指导”影帝跳舞。而这次奇妙的跨界合作，来自一场别开生面的婚礼。

网易音乐：Talkingabout your new single “I really like you”, many of your fans are excited andsurprised to see that, the Oscar winner Tom Hanks are in the Video, how did ithappen? Is that your idea?

关于你的新单曲“Ireally like you”，许多你的粉丝对于奥斯卡最佳男主角汤姆汉克斯出现在MV中非常激动与惊喜，这是怎么促成的？是你的主意么？

Carly Rae Jepsen: It’s a really strange story actually. I met him at my managerScooter’s friend’s wedding, coz they’re friends. I kind of jumped on him byaccident. I thought he was trying to… Ok, I have to tell you the whole story.Basically, there was a bunch of wedding tents at this event. And there was ahummingbird that was caught inside of one of these tents. A crowd was formingto free this bird from the tents, and I saw a man walk towards, the chaos, withboomerangs in his hand. I thought he was gonna swat the bird. But, I think infact he was gonna open the flap of the tent to let the bird escape. Anyway Iran over there and jumped on him and I said ‘don’t hurt the bird’. And then heturned around. That was Tom Hanks. So that’s how we introduced, really awkward.Then about 2 months later, when we were dreaming about video concepts, theideas for ‘I Really Like You’, I come up with the decision, the desire that hassomething wasn’t so sweet, because the song was sweet. I wanted something thatwas funny. And I expected it a little dry. So I ran to my manager I dreamedabout this idea that we would have male lead lip-sync entire things inside ofme. And he was telling this concept to Tom Hanks over dinner and I guess Tomwas like ‘why don’t you just ask me? I’d love to do it’. And that was end ofit.

事实上这是一个非常奇怪的故事。我在我的经理Scooter的朋友的婚礼上遇到他的，因为他们是朋友。我意外地遇到了他，我以为他要……好吧，我不得不告诉你来龙去脉。在这场活动上，有很多那种婚礼帐篷，有一只蜂鸟被困在了其中的一个帐篷里。一大堆人聚集起来打算把这只鸟放出来。我看见一个男人向这个帐篷走去，手里拿了一个回旋镖。我以为他要打这只鸟。但是其实我后来觉得他应该是要去打开帐篷的帘门好让鸟飞出来。总之，我跑了过去然后突袭了他，跟他说“不要伤害它！”。他转过身来，我才知道他是汤姆汉克斯。所以，这就是我们认识的方式，非常尴尬。两个月之后，当我们讨论MV的想法的时候，我觉得MV不应该太甜蜜了，因为这首歌已经很甜了。我希望它有趣一点并且有一点冷幽默。于是我跟我经理说我的想法是希望有一个男演员全程对口型来演。他把这个想法告诉了汤姆汉克斯在吃晚饭的时候，我猜汤姆当时就是一副“你怎么不问我？我非常乐意出演。”这就是整个故事。

网易音乐：Howdoes it feel when you really work with him in that video? I saw some clips thatyou teach him how to dance.

当你真的和汤姆一起工作的时候感觉怎么样？我看一些片段你教他怎么样跳舞。

Carly Rae Jepsen: I don’t know if you can say I teach him how to dance. Coz neitherone of us could dancing, but it was really cool at the moment. So we’retogether in the music video. Coz it was just hard to take in or believe that hewas doing it. That was really strange. This Oscar award winner actor was sortof singing the lyrics of my song. So I kept on getting in trouble that day fromthe video director being like ‘Carly, great shot, but this time can you stop?Just like a gay being in Tom Hanks. Like you need to have some shots you had inthat face to the camera’. ‘Ok’. Then we did it again. I was just being danceand looking at him all the time. Coz we were just hard to take in.

我不知道能不能说我在教他跳舞，因为我们俩都不会跳舞，但是当时真的很酷。因为很难想象他在跳舞。真的非常奇怪，这个奥斯卡影帝在唱我的歌。所以那天我一直在出错，导演Peter就跟我说“Carly，刚刚的很棒，但是这次你能停一下么？想象汤姆汉克斯身体里有一个gay，比如你要时不时看看他的脸”。“好吧。”然后我们又拍了一次。我就一直盯着他的脸跳舞，因为我们真的很难接受。

谈比伯：他对我有知遇之恩

除了影帝外，一贯对Carly照顾有加的“小老板”贾斯汀·比伯（JustinBieber）也意外现身新歌MV拍摄现场，并再次邀请了一帮圈中好友制作了“对口型”版的MV，让这首歌再次成为大热门。她坦言，贾斯汀·比伯对她有知遇之恩。

网易音乐：JustinBieber helped you promoting this song like he did last time, how do you like his version?

Justin Bieber帮助你修改了这首歌，就像他之前帮你修改《CallMe Maybe》一样，你觉得他的帮助怎么样？

Carly Rae Jepsen: I love it. It’s always fun to see anyone can remix on some youwork done, but I actually feel like a old woman when I watch it, because Iwatch all these celeberties and ‘who is that? Oh, that’s Kendall ok’. My sistersat next to me and pointing out ‘oh, that’s this person’. I was like ‘Irecognized David Forster’. It was very excited. And I think it’s undeniablethat Justin has a huge following in it. It’s just so helpful when he kind ofshines any attention on the project you’re doing.

我非常喜欢。有人能演绎你的作品这是非常有趣的。但是其实我觉得自己很out，当我看它的时候，因为我看到很多名人（都不认识），然后问“这是谁？哇，这是Kendall。”我妹妹坐在我旁边就一直“哇，这是那谁。”我就“我认出了David Forster。”真的非常激动。我认为不可否认得Justin带来了很大的效应。他为我的作品带来了很多关注，这真的帮助很大。

网易音乐：How doyou guys know about each other? We all know he gave you the contract.

你们是怎么认识彼此的？我们都知道他签了你。

Carly Rae Jepsen:Yes.

是的。

网易音乐:So what’s the story?

是怎么回事？

Carly Rae Jepsen: The story goes… I was actually doing my own project in Canada … Iwas looking for hoping ways to break out the rest of the world, but I had no real idea about how that works or how thathappens. So I was contentedly just making a living in career as a musiciansolely in Canada. Luckily, I had some radio play and ‘Call Me Maybe’ wasactually getting some radio play at that time. And Justin happened to come toCanada and heard it when he was visiting his grandparents for Christmas orsomething like that. And apparently he heard the song and just twitted that heliked it. And he was kind of headed for his fames, so that just sort of createdthe snow ball effect and then different labels and different are countriesreaching out and expressing interests about my project. Because of course hehas been the one to initiate all the succssment to. I felt only fit in then Iset with him and his manager Scooter Braun. It’s a decision that I don’tregret. They really changed my life for better.

故事是这样的，当时我正在加拿大做我的作品。

我在寻找机会让全球其他地区也能够听到我的作品，但是我没有可行的关于这该如何运转或发生的想法。所以我只是安心地独自在加拿大做音乐为生。幸运的是，我的歌“Call Me Maybe”当时正在电台轮番播放。Justin圣诞节回加拿大拜访他的祖父母正好在电台上听到了。他听到了这首歌，然后发推特说他很喜欢。靠着他的名气，造成了一股雪球效应，不同的厂牌和国家都听到并且对我的歌产生了很大的兴趣。因为当然他是第一个推广我歌的人，只有和他合作我才觉得是合适的，于是我和他还有他的经理Scooter Braun签订了合约。我从来没有后悔过这个决定。他们真的很棒地改变了我的生活。

谈发展：我不想只做“蹲妹”

“泡泡糖舞曲”“甜心小天后”，面对这些称号，镜头前的她并未显示出百分百的喜爱。的确，谈吐之间，她是一个非常清楚流行歌曲写作规律的聪明女孩儿。她懂得如何利用自己的优势获得成功，但她也不断在更多领域打破常规、丰富自己。正如她即将发行的新专辑，封面已经不简单地蹲在那里，风格也不再是简单的流行舞曲。

网易音乐： Itseems there’s a tuning point of your music style, since you sign the contract.You know, before “Call Me Maybe”, your first record “Tug of War” is sweet butmore like a indie record, however now “Call Me Maybe ”and “I Really Like You”are all smash hits, so what make the change.

自从你签订了合约之后，好像你的音乐风格转变了很多。在“CallMe Maybe”之前，你的第一张专辑“Tug ofWar”也很甜，但是可能更像一张独立专辑。现在的“CallMe Maybe”和“I ReallyLike you”都是出色的热门曲，所以是什么改变了你？

Carly Rae Jepsen: I think it’s natural for every artist kind of involving changingtheir goal. I think my taste was just naturally heading in that direction. I’vebeen writing solely on the acoustic guitar, coz the only instrument that I knewhad barely play. It was my first time to do songwriting with ”Tug of War” . soeverything was very journal entry. There was no real song structure or rule inmy head，it was very innocentwriting when I listen back to that album I’m kind of have love for it becauseit was so untouched and innocent when I started songwriting. When I startedwriting the rest of the album for “Call Me Maybe” and “The Kiss”, I had learneda lot more about the pop world, I was excited to take on the challenge ofwriting a pop song, because I do think it is probably for me at least, a lotmore difficult a lot more challenging to write in the pop world, and I do itwell. It excited me that challenge. Also my taste changed. La Roux, Kimbra andsome other artists that we are still in indie nature but had a lot of popinfluence.

With this next album“Emotion”, I think I’ve even taken a new direction once again, while it’s alittle bit more idiots pop again I think and at the same time there would besome songs go a little bit more indie nature/alternative, a little bit of areasI couldn’t gone, right？ That’s been very excited to do.

我觉得每个艺术家都会涉及改变，这是很自然的。我想我的品位就是自然地朝着那个方向走。我以前一直是独自用原声吉他写歌，因为我只会这一种乐器。“Tug of War”是我第一次写歌，所以所有的都是崭新的。在我脑海里是没有歌曲结构和规则的，只是很单纯地写歌从我一开始写歌的时候。当我开始为“Call Me Maybe”和专辑“The Kiss”写其他歌的时候，我学到了关于流行音乐世界更多的东西，并且我做得不错。这个挑战让我觉得很刺激。同时我的品位也改变了。像La Roux，Kimbra还有一些其他的艺术家，我们一直都在独立环境中，但是也受到了很多流行影响。

至于我下一张专辑“Emotion”，我觉得我又朝着一个新的方向走了，虽然我觉得它还是有一点傻傻的流行，但是同时还会有一些歌会更独立或者另类，一些我之前没有涉及的领域，对吧？我真的很激动去做这件事。

网易音乐:That’s a bunch of music elements.

那真是很多种音乐元素。

Carly Rae Jepsen: Yes I think so. I hope that I’m always change, every album thatI’m kind of can re-inventing of what excites me and re-inventing sort of what Iwant to go musicly.

我认为是的。我希望我能够一直改变，每一张专辑我都能够再创造一些能够使我激动的和我想要的音乐。